Twitter took up the argument between me and Neil
Liversidge about trail commission.
These are all the tweets that hit my
timeline. I guess there were a lot more.
In reverse chronological order, latest first
109
VBischoff Victoria Bischoff
Excellent reply Paul - though I'm not sure that dross particularly
deserved one!
108
ElaineBirch elaine birch
isn't the biggest problem about trail where advisers switch clients
investments for higher trail intending to sell up?
107
JonSWright Jon
Wright
just read all the comments for and against. Well done sir, good work. I support
you.
106
Marcus_Davison Marcus
Davison
Would people trust you more if you showed full face on Twitter? 'Hands over
mouth' is a no-no in the 'trusting' professions
105
SullaB Anselm
Bassano
Summary:Paul does his job,some IFA don't like it, charges are opaque and we are
all probably being ripped off.
104
BroughtonLass BroughtonLass
Good rebuttal, by the way.
103
BroughtonLass BroughtonLass
Can't believe someone is equating trail commission with the TV licence fee.
102
johnhellier John
Hellier
@_moneymarketing who
are these clients you are talking to Mr paul Lewis they certainly aren't any of
my clients!!!!!
101
MaverickPudding Mary
Newark
Yup, absolutely! @KarenWagg
100
CashQuestions Annie
Shaw
@MaverickPudding seems
to be what some of the IFAs criticising were
suggesting@KarenWagg
099
MaverickPudding Mary
Newark
@CashQuestions So
only doctors can criticize medics? Lawyers/judges? Qualified admen/TVads?
Qualified journos/journalists?
098
cleverwithmoney Steve
Laird
Good reply. Neil's letter reflects the paranoia that exists amongst some IFAs
that FSA/media are out to get them - good/bad
097
cleverwithmoney Steve
Laird
Well thought out, balanced reply Paul. RDR meant to get rid bad advice &
practice. Bound to be some paranoia
096
RiskActuary Elliot
Varnell
UK IFA community getting upset after suggests
that trail commission is secret to many consumers... bit.ly/pqIfCq #in
095
SS401 Paul
Rogers
@tomstronach If
your IFA can't explain things to you clearly, then it may be time to get a new
one! Seriously.
094
MasonsFinancial Dean
Mason
@money2themasses interesting
debate (it now is one), unlikely many will benefit from RDR & the FSA failed,
hence replacement
093
money2themasses Damien
Fahy
Reply from @paullewismoney
to
Neil Liversidge's complaints about Money Box and trail commissionmoneymarketing.co.uk/1037700.articl…
092
PhilBill360 Phil
Billingham
Robust reply! Thanks for that. Perhaps there is a difference between 'Secret
/hidden' and 'Not understood by many?' Coffee?
091
bruce_cameron Bruce
Cameron
Well replied Paul, the difference between journalistic reporting and taking a
position seems to have been missed
090
GarethJameson Gareth
Jameson
That told him. I read the transcript and thought it was fair. Moneybox often
recommends seeking independent financial advice
089
Coreco Coreco
Good stuff responds
to Neil Liversidge letter
c0re.co/qLknMG
088
ACHMelchett General
Melchett
Well said sir!
087
YorkshireWalker John
HIck
last time I checked people were not giving PL large amounts of their hard earned
dosh to gamble with
086
tomstronach Tom
Stronach
@SS401 Most
of what you says Unfortunately , goes over my head, and having had an IFA who
also spoke over my head I always get lost. As for qualifications do we then
disbar ALL MPs from being in government oofice’s of state as most of them are as
qualified my dead cat in for ability and knowledge in managing the country’s
affairs? [expanded from tweetdeck]
085
martinwwhite72 Martin
White
@simonMAB because
GP must be seen to be giving impartial advice in all cases. No suspicion that
commission led prescription.
084
eilidh Eilidh
nobody's allowed to complain about you. You're the sensible uncle we all wish we
had
083
IanLambertIFA Ian
Lambert
seriously the Garage and Estate Agency world would be carnage if they had to
produce audit trails like us & retrospectively
082
IanLambertIFA Ian
Lambert
CONT by running one Paul, it's not a gravy train and we are not at all as
painted, we are more regulated than any other...!
081
IanLambertIFA Ian
Lambert
for you to really get into the level of detail that you are discussing, you
really should have experienced an IFA business
080
CashQuestions Annie
Shaw
obviously you don't have to have IFA quals to criticise IFA business model, nor
self evidently to have journo quals to write
079
Louise50top Louise
Oliver
just listened to Moneybox from Sat and you projected a good balanced opinion of
the commission issue!
078
geoffsenior1 geoff
senior
not from me Paul.
077
CashQuestions Annie
Shaw
.. many ppl think they can "write" + "do a bit of journalism", just because they
can hold a biro. Quite a few finance bods!
076
CashQuestions Annie
Shaw
I love the argument about having to have exams to be able to comment about money
(actually I did pass a few old ones) How ..
075
Spectrumifs Wayne
Slater
@PensionsMonkey I
Agree. Media also has equal repsonsibilty to promote both positive and negative
always seems an unbalance
074
hedge64 Bruce
Spence
not
going to do anything to improve their "client's" pension pot is it? Would rather
trust the IFA and after RDR a non-issue
073
sonofveritas sonofveritas
As a consumer of financial services I have always found your programmes to be
informative, balanced and fair.
072
simonMAB Simon
Richards
@martinwwhite72 Why
would you criticise your GP for saving your life? no matter how they were paid.
071
SarahDavidson Sarah
Davidson
therein lies the rub, afraid we don't pay but it would be opp to justify
thoughts on trail commission to brokers?23rd Sept?
070
martinwwhite72 Martin
White
So how are IFA exams relevant to this debate? Not at all I'd say.
069
Massows Massow's
Ltd.
thanks for following and good work on Saturday!
068
martinwwhite72 Martin
White
Ha! So now you would have to be a qualified doctor to criticise your GP being
paid commission by drugs companies?
067
Mortgage_Stu Mortgage_Stu
thanks - appreciate the response. I think it would level the marketplace and
assist consumers.
066
PensionsMonkey Tom
McPhail
Paul I thought Neil's letter was more an exposition on the good work IFAs do
than an undioluted critique of your programme?
065
Mortgage_Stu Mortgage_Stu
Paul, just a thought, but would you advocate the same principle for fees based
advice for mortgages? I think it would help.
064
SarahDavidson Sarah
Davidson
Hi Paul, what do you say to writing 345 words for MI on whether trail commission
would be good or bad in mortgages?
063
meigwilym Mei
Gwilym
haters gonna hate. keep up the good work, paul
062
paullewismoney Paul
Lewis
“@shaunkirtley: @SS401 but
has he actually passed any of the exams IFAs have to take?? Have you Paul, do
tell?” No.
061
DhiraBhakta Dhira
Bhakta Dasa
I don't understand most financial things so always glad that you explain things
so nicely, if only others would do the same
060
theactualpolson Mark
Polson
That should do it! The lifecos taking trail that isn't being paid out prob have
more to lose than IFAs bbc.in/nhAHvS
059
simonMAB Simon
Richards
As Harry Hill would say "theirs only one way to sort this" FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT
!
058
lyndwynd LyndaEvans
Would rather take your advice anyday.IFA lost me £6000 overnight which was for
my grandchildren.Never again.
057
smithyyork Adam
Smith
I've always been aware of trail commission and I'm not sure why you say it's a
secret when it's in the paperwork.
056
BrianWaltersPMI Brian
Walters
Have just read the transcript. Your comments were balanced bar the 'best kept
secret' part, which was misrepresentative.
055
smithyyork Adam
Smith
Paul, understood. But Neil has raised an important point about the mention of
trail commission being 'secret'
054
SS401 Paul
Rogers
@IFABlogger Yes,
really. I should mention that I train IFAs (and multi-tieds). Some (not all)
IFAs' knowledge is very poor.
053
shaunkirtley Shaun
Kirtley
@SS401 but
has he actually passed any of the exams IFAs have to take?? Have you Paul, do
tell?
052
MatthewWalne Matthew
Walne
@mudlarklives If
you think all IFAs are the same then please take a look at my website
www.santorini-fp.co.uk
051
pwaring Paul
Hope you point out that you are (if I recall correctly) a freelancer and not 'on
a taxpayer-funded salary'!
050
GarethRShaw Gareth
Shaw
Completely support you on this Paul, you come across as fair and balanced
talking about trail. Storm in a teacup I think...
049
IanLambertIFA Ian
Lambert
I have always said that we are over regulated and over complicated. The real
fraudsters who should be mae to produce audit trails for the work they do;
Estate Agents and Garages [expanded from TweetDeck]
048
smithyyork Adam
Smith
I look forward to your response to Neil Liversidge's letter. I know Neil
personally and would vouch for his integrity.
047
Mousehole1 Norma
Moore
Methinks the industry are trying to bully you Paul! Smacks of desperation to
shut you up in fact ...
046
Mortgage_Stu Mortgage_Stu
as a mortgage adviser, if I didn't charge fees which I rebate at completion thru
commission, I'd be out of business.
045
mudlarklives Clay
Harris
Those comments confirm why I would never touch any IFA with a bargepole.
Self-serving, self-important, out to skim.
044
jamuir_ca Jim
Muir
@SS401 >
value is in the debate and Paul has heightened awareness (as he does well). He
can take the slaps (and give them)
043
Mortgage_Stu Mortgage_Stu
the issue is that based on one comment all advisers get tarnished by same brush.
042
Mortgage_Stu Mortgage_Stu
trouble is Paul, trail commission is not hidden and the commission is clawed
back if client cancels - so who's at more risk?
041
IFABlogger IFABlogger
See @paullewismoney is having
a bad day! Shame that!
040
BroughtonLass BroughtonLass
When are you going to publish your response, Paul?
039
IFABlogger IFABlogger
RT @SS401:
Sympathy for @paullewismoney -
he has clients' best interests at heart & is more knowledgeable than most IFAs
I've met. ? Really
038
Massows Massow's
Ltd.
Good debate going between @paullewismoney
and
Neil Liversidge about trail commission... bit.ly/nbpA6a
037
Spectrumifs Wayne
Slater
LMAO at this unbiased retweet #not RT @SS401:
Sympathy for @paullewismoney
- he has clients' best interests at heart and is more knowledgeable than most
IFAs I’ve met. Not the right target. [expanded from TweetDeck]
036
SS401 Paul
Rogers
Sympathy for @paullewismoney
-
he has clients' best interests at heart & is more knowledgeable than most IFAs
I've met. Not the right target
035
money2themasses Damien
Fahy
Have you published your response to Liversidge open letter yet? Currently I've
retweeted only one side of the argument
034
IFAtweets IFA
Tweets
Clients need to know they're getting value for money, but they still need
educating (media) as most still don't like fees. [expanded from twitlonger]
033
IFAtweets IFA
Tweets
Glad you support fees, Paul. It would be fantastic if the media would promote
fee based advice, directing clients to IFAs.
032
jonnyatkins Jonny
Atkins
Excellent IFA open letter by Neil Liversidge in MM to @paullewismoney and
his Moneybox comments on trail commission
031
ACHMelchett General
Melchett
@theactualpolson I
think you've touched a nerve Paul. Just ditched my IFA (fund manager withheld)
for exactly this reason!
030
IainMartinCW Iain
Martin
@theactualpolson Also
missed Moneybox but suggesting some IFAs are not providing a service for trail
is hardly controversial
029
ukmoneyguru julian
knight
too true Paul - every major mis-selling scandal of past 25 years has commission
at its heart - ban can't come soon enough
028
bristolifa James
Marchant
Depends on what the IFA does for the client... advice is not just about running
money so needs to be paid for!
027
theactualpolson Mark
Polson
Wow, the angry masses are after @paullewismoney on
MM. Pretty sure I heard everyone on Moneybox agree that good IFAs had nothing to
fear.
026
cleverwithmoney Steve
Laird
Any IFA who provides value for trail or other fee/ commission they receive has
nothing to fear from Mr Massow and his ilk.
025
Spectrumifs Wayne
Slater
:)
024
Spectrumifs Wayne
Slater
Goal achieved then Paul! Just think of all the new followers you will now get
023
CashQuestions Annie
Shaw
blimey, I could call you many things (handsome, debonair, talented etc etc ????)
but lazy ain't one of them, that's for sure
022
fswales Jeremy
Phelps
Clients need to know they're getting value for money, but they still need
educating (media) as most still don't like fees.
021
fswales Jeremy
Phelps
Glad you support fees, Paul. It would be fantastic if the media would promote
fee based advice, directing clients to IFAs.
020
IFAtweets IFA
Tweets
Please give Neil Liversidge some airtime, before consumers start believing that
financial advice should always be free
019
fswales Jeremy
Phelps
Please give Neil Liversidge some airtime, before consumers start believing that
financial advice should always be free.
018
MasonsFinancial Dean
Mason
@money2themasses:
Then read angry IFAs open letter (& challenge) to bit.ly/qLPryM Paul
is due to make his response"
017
fswales Jeremy
Phelps
Excellent letter spelling out what an IFA does to justify fees charged. Give
this IFA airtime please moneymarketing.co.uk/1037598.articl…
016
EddyLongshanks Edward
Longshanks
Well done Paul. I'm sure there are some good FA's somewhere, unfortunately there
is a lot more shall we say less good ones.
015
Mike_White_Head Mike
Whitehead
...whereas he gives the impression such costs are incurred by choice. FS
industry moving in right direction - consumer led mkt
014
Mike_White_Head Mike
Whitehead
As HSBC FS alumni I understand Neil's points. However, the fact is all the
compliance costs etc are an FSA obligation.(cont)
013
money2themasses Damien
Fahy
Then read angry IFAs open letter (and challenge) to http://ow.ly/6rD3X Paul
is due to publish his response
012
IanLambertIFA Ian
Lambert
Paul, please take up Neil Liversidge's offer of an open debate. What you say has
a wide audience, let an IFA have his..?
011
BroughtonLass BroughtonLass
Looking forward to reading your reply. Does he realise how much help and advice
you offer here and elsewhere?
010
martinbamford Martin
Bamford
On behalf of my 'peers', very Sorry to see that level of hostility. We're all
hoping the worst elements are gone soon!
009
Burmilla44 Christine
Bushby
You rattled his cage good and proper! Methinks the lady doth protest too much!
Keep up the good work Paul!
008
thebiggj Glyn
Jones
No. No. There's one from a nutter backing you. Ah. That must be me.
007
Coreco Coreco
Interested to read @paullewismoney's
response to Neil Liversidge that appeared in today's @_moneymarketing c0re.co/ong2y8
006
PhilBill360 Phil
Billingham
He makes some very good points, I feel. Still up for a coffee? In USA this week.
After that? Look forward to your reply
005
BroughtonLass BroughtonLass
Do publish it!
004
BroughtonLass BroughtonLass
Are you going to respond? He certainly lays into you good and proper - as do
some of the commenters.
003
mark_stockwell Mark
Stockwell
Interested to see what @paullewismoney has
to say about this:bit.ly/pfHxZS *lights
blue touch paper* *stands well back*
002
GregKingston Greg
Kingston
RT :
IFA Neil Liversidge has released his letter to me which I received on Saturday
afternoo… (cont) t.co/ay54j4d
001
MasonsFinancial Dean
Mason
“@_moneymarketing:
An open letter to the BBC's Money Box over trail commission: moneymarketing.co.uk/1037598.articl…”